What I Have Learned From Cubic Castles.

edited August 2016 in Suggestions & Comments
Cubic Castles, from the day I started it, was an amazing game, where people spoke to each other, made parkours, and all around enjoyed themselves. But, in September 23rd, 2015. I heard of the most horrid concept in this game, scamming. It blew my mind to know that, even in such an amazing game, something so small, whether or not its good or small, could expand into something insane. As you know, Cubic Castles needs people to stop this scamming, people are saying that we can't stop it, but we can. All we have to do, is have hope. Hope is like happiness, have it, and it spreads. But something like scamming, also does the same, not all the time, but it can, very easily. And you know, part of the adventure mode, really made me feel bad. The first scammer that I saw was actually named Kip. And i did nothing, to stop it. Which, now, makes me feel like an idiot. To all those who have seen/experienced scamming, please, and I mean PLEASE, don't just watch it happen. Do something about it. That brings me into what I have learned from cc, never think that something small, good or bad, won't increase significantly if you don't do anything about it. Because believe me, you will know what it feels like to live in a world of destruction if we don't do anything. I know that, Cosmic Cow, and the mods, admins, etc, have done things to stop it, and it actually made a difference, but they aren't 100% meant to stop this, they have other things to be worrying about in this game, like the few glitches I have heard about. If this game becomes less known for what its amazing, awesomeness, and more for the scamming and bullies, its mainly the community's fault for not taking action, and just thinking cosmic cow will fix it all. Cosmic Cow can fix someone's day and someone's game, but what they can't do is 100% end scamming. But we can, because we have experienced it. Now I will make a topic about bullying, but I don't want this to be super long.

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  • I especially remember that times old times C: people was happy some of them was donating to tip piggy also there were scammers too.. but not in that high number.. i only got scammed once in 2014... I really hope cc community go back to its old times.. they were just amazing..
  • edited August 2016
    Dudo #77 said:

    I especially remember that times old times C: people was happy some of them was donating to tip piggy also there were scammers too.. but not in that high number.. i only got scammed once in 2014... I really hope cc community go back to its old times.. they were just amazing..

    Tell me about it :(
    People were kind and amazing and didn't act like jerks to random people.
  • The 007The 007 PortugalMember
    This, like every other topic made about scamming, is a very nice thing to say, yet, i doesnt take the developers anywhere given that you do not present an actual solution to fix this major problem.
    Hope isn't a solution, I know that in most cases of life is an illusion of solution, but if you have hope on scammers, you are saying that you should go to pay aways, and paid pick the coluor, and play the drop game, becouse you hope, that someday, scamming will stop existing, while in reality, you are just feading scammmers ._.
    Nice text, but not efficient.
  • Dudo #77 said:

    I especially remember that times old times C: people was happy some of them was donating to tip piggy also there were scammers too.. but not in that high number.. i only got scammed once in 2014... I really hope cc community go back to its old times.. they were just amazing..

    2014..... the year when I born in Cubic Castles....... That time there're small number of scammer...... cause Lots player only thing "Mine, Craft and Build" and in that year I got scammed for the first time...... at that time when you give something to someone they'll happily accept it no matter how much it is..... That time when all Players talk to each other, they don't care about richness and experience, cause that time there's no patron and levels....... but after few months all changed.......... lots nice people quit one by one..... back then I have about 100 friends... and they quit one by one..... .. and I can't find anyone that like them..................... few months after a pack came out (I forgot which pack was that) lots scammer enter this game and scam a newbie both patron and non-patron..... and some days/weeks/months after it I heard that a war happen in Growtopia and some GT scammer migrated here and do what they do in GT..... actually we can Stop "Scamming" but some new players can't speak english and there's no one from their country that help that player and some player bring some new player into the darkness....... If You want to stop "Scamming" you must protect all new players from scammers ...... but it seems impossible... cause you can't supervise and protect every new players....... then the other way is ..... attack the root.......yeah it seems impossible.... until today I'm still watching some guys that I ever heard that they do some sort of scam...........
  • Fluffy 303Fluffy 303 Somewhere Over The RainbowMember
    You can't stop scamming and people have made it clear, hope doesn't help it because scammers don't change their minds, it's not like some movie where everything goes wrong then turns right with hope, no, this is life. There are gonna be scammers and there is no way in stopping it. Admins tried everything but it can't stop. What scammers are telling us is that in the real world they will grow up or already are bad people. They will steal in real life too but not always. That tells us that they will steal irl too.
  • Dudo #77 said:

    I especially remember that times old times C: people was happy some of them was donating to tip piggy also there were scammers too.. but not in that high number.. i only got scammed once in 2014... I really hope cc community go back to its old times.. they were just amazing..

    Tell me about it :(
    People were kind and amazing and didn't act like jerks to random people.
    ikr :C I miss the old days, No payaways, High priced cash register (lel) Everything!!!!!!

  • The 007The 007 PortugalMember
    edited August 2016
    #Elfie said:

    Dudo #77 said:

    I especially remember that times old times C: people was happy some of them was donating to tip piggy also there were scammers too.. but not in that high number.. i only got scammed once in 2014... I really hope cc community go back to its old times.. they were just amazing..

    Tell me about it :(
    People were kind and amazing and didn't act like jerks to random people.
    ikr :C I miss the old days, No payaways, High priced cash register (lel) Everything!!!!!!

    The 1k register was that price because there where no regs before. Like, regs wasn't a thing from the very start. To buy, you would you do it the tip pig way, and because having a reg was a straight upgrade, they obviously be 1k.
    And I'm kinda sad to see these payaways, they came out of nowhere, from one day to another, and honest players where like "Whut's happening O_o ?"
  • Dudo #77 said:

    I especially remember that times old times C: people was happy some of them was donating to tip piggy also there were scammers too.. but not in that high number.. i only got scammed once in 2014... I really hope cc community go back to its old times.. they were just amazing..

    Tell me about it :(
    People were kind and amazing and didn't act like jerks to random people.
    I act weird to random people and scare them off.
    It's probably my beard :U
  • Another thing that i miss from 2015 is the fact that newbies were "smarter" and more "friendly" cuz now they only friend you to you give them your items -_- and if you dont give they unfriend you. I miss the old times :/
  • GollumGollum South AfricaMember, Retired Moderator
    Mate, I have made a few posts like this, about scammers, how people spread hate, and a few other things, on this forum and the old one.
    I tried to encourage change, and to spread love and stop hate. But in the end, all people do is shoot the ideas down. There are a few people who agree with what we say, but it doesn't last long. Everyone just shoots down ideas like this and they don't actually care about it.

    It starts with you mate, push aside all the negativity this community throws at you, and start making a small difference for yourself, because if they don't care, then it doesn't change for them, but if you care, the game becomes so much more enjoyable.
    Don't try to start a revolution or a mass movement, because these people don't want that, they want to tell you how you will fail and how it will never work.


  • *>Jess<**>Jess<* Member
    edited August 2016
    I remember that time when my best friend and I decided to 'try' scamming ( It was HER idea, okay? ) once, we failed in the end and we didn't dare to try it again because we knew how the hate will spread and we will hurt the community, but I totally agree with your opinion, we should team up and spread love, not spread hate, this is a family-friendly game, and we should KEEP it that way
  • Gollum said:

    Mate, I have made a few posts like this, about scammers, how people spread hate, and a few other things, on this forum and the old one.
    I tried to encourage change, and to spread love and stop hate. But in the end, all people do is shoot the ideas down. There are a few people who agree with what we say, but it doesn't last long. Everyone just shoots down ideas like this and they don't actually care about it.

    It starts with you mate, push aside all the negativity this community throws at you, and start making a small difference for yourself, because if they don't care, then it doesn't change for them, but if you care, the game becomes so much more enjoyable.
    Don't try to start a revolution or a mass movement, because these people don't want that, they want to tell you how you will fail and how it will never work.


    Yes, I know. But i hate it that people never try to actually take action. Well, yes, they try, but the thing is, is that they never continue. All they do is they say "IMMA DO IT.", and then when someone says that they won't be able to, they just stop. The main thing I hate about this game, is that, even though that this game is amazing, and over 500k downloads have been happening of this game, its so sad, that, the main reason why people have not been able to do things about scamming, they never care to continue. My mom always told me "Don't let someone make you stop doing good because they think its bad, don't let them control you." but, no one ever did that, they only cared about what other people said. Yes, it is always important to let someone criticize you, but don't treat their words like godly quotes, which again, nobody cares about doing.
  • Gollum said:

    It starts with you mate, push aside all the negativity this community throws at you, and start making a small difference for yourself, because if they don't care, then it doesn't change for them, but if you care, the game becomes so much more enjoyable.


    Those words were so nicely put, @Gollum ^^

    Scamming is just one of those things that people are passionate about ending, but haven't done a lot about. Mainly because is there really a fixed solution to this? Bullying is similar. There is no fixed solution to bullying, HOWEVER situations can change depending on how YOU react to it.

    This is my discussion which is about encouraging kindness c;
    http://forums2.cubiccastles.com/index.php?p=/discussion/5442/kindness-in-the-community#latest
  • The 007The 007 PortugalMember
    Gollum said:

    Mate, I have made a few posts like this, about scammers, how people spread hate, and a few other things, on this forum and the old one.
    I tried to encourage change, and to spread love and stop hate. But in the end, all people do is shoot the ideas down. There are a few people who agree with what we say, but it doesn't last long. Everyone just shoots down ideas like this and they don't actually care about it.

    It starts with you mate, push aside all the negativity this community throws at you, and start making a small difference for yourself, because if they don't care, then it doesn't change for them, but if you care, the game becomes so much more enjoyable.
    Don't try to start a revolution or a mass movement, because these people don't want that, they want to tell you how you will fail and how it will never work.


    Ok mate. What are you on about?
    We did not shoot your idea because it was bad, we shoot it because your idea wouldn't stop scamming as a mass. And no, we don't shoot down the ideas because we don't care, we shoot them down because we care more than you, and caring more, we want solutions, and not "Oh pls don't be mean"

    Pushing aside the negativity Is kinda counter productive don't you think mate? Shouldn't you be paying MORE attention to the problem, instead of looking away?

    And, we don't want a revolution? Mate... What are you on about? We WANT a revolution, we WANT mass change, WE WANT A BETTER GAME, and for it to happen, we need anti scamm ideas, not complains about it, not helping
    with ideas to stop such hateful parasite.

    And, how do you fail, if the only thing we say is that your speech doesn't have an actual solution?
  • lunariscilunarisci 'MuricaMember
    Revolution? Revolution against what? o-o It's a video-game, don't get too over-dramatic about it

    Most "scams" happen because players trust the wrong people with perms, or they don't trade with a cash register (since CRs are now craftable, this shouldn't be much of a problem anymore)

    People just need to be aware that other people can lie

    Instead of trying to convince "scammers" to stop "scamming," inform the players on the Do's and Dont's
  • GollumGollum South AfricaMember, Retired Moderator
    The 007 said:

    Gollum said:

    Mate, I have made a few posts like this, about scammers, how people spread hate, and a few other things, on this forum and the old one.
    I tried to encourage change, and to spread love and stop hate. But in the end, all people do is shoot the ideas down. There are a few people who agree with what we say, but it doesn't last long. Everyone just shoots down ideas like this and they don't actually care about it.

    It starts with you mate, push aside all the negativity this community throws at you, and start making a small difference for yourself, because if they don't care, then it doesn't change for them, but if you care, the game becomes so much more enjoyable.
    Don't try to start a revolution or a mass movement, because these people don't want that, they want to tell you how you will fail and how it will never work.


    Ok mate. What are you on about?
    We did not shoot your idea because it was bad, we shoot it because your idea wouldn't stop scamming as a mass. And no, we don't shoot down the ideas because we don't care, we shoot them down because we care more than you, and caring more, we want solutions, and not "Oh pls don't be mean"

    Pushing aside the negativity Is kinda counter productive don't you think mate? Shouldn't you be paying MORE attention to the problem, instead of looking away?

    And, we don't want a revolution? Mate... What are you on about? We WANT a revolution, we WANT mass change, WE WANT A BETTER GAME, and for it to happen, we need anti scamm ideas, not complains about it, not helping
    with ideas to stop such hateful parasite.

    And, how do you fail, if the only thing we say is that your speech doesn't have an actual solution?
    Yep, a change of mind when someone exposes.
    If you go look at my previous topics about these issues you are one of the biggest haters, and the one that literally has no hope what so ever, and if you do... you have a non ethical way of showing it.
    I'm not going to argue with you anymore... because I would be contradicting what I'm fighting against.
    I can almost guarantee that when this topic reaches page 2 the majority of the people that "WANT a mass change", will let it blow over and carry on as normal.
    A few friends of mine have been helping me with fighting against these issues one step at a time, because we have people who rant about wanting change, but do absolutely naught about it.
    Mate.
  • Dudo #77Dudo #77 Member
    edited August 2016

    Dudo #77 said:

    I especially remember that times old times C: people was happy some of them was donating to tip piggy also there were scammers too.. but not in that high number.. i only got scammed once in 2014... I really hope cc community go back to its old times.. they were just amazing..

    Tell me about it :(
    People were kind and amazing and didn't act like jerks to random people.
    Well first of all :) Shops wasn´t like before.. There were only tip piggys.. And people was nice and trusted each other so they had no problem.. I think i never found anyone in that times that had problem with paying into my piggy.. Also we didn´t know prices of anything for example i was selling harm wand for 400Cubits etc.. shops were made in main realms and was small ones.. That special feeling when i found my first cave art and glassed it so everyone can look what i´ve found and was like :OOOOOO... That times when players was giveawaying clothes to other people.. Not hats etc.. Just clothes like Pants and shirts.. And it made them happy... That times when noone thinked about business and cubits.. But everyone was hanging out with friends and was building something so they never get bored... I miss that times too much... But they cannot return anymore.. They will stay in my mind forrever..
  • edited August 2016
    lunarisci said:

    Revolution? Revolution against what? o-o It's a video-game, don't get too over-dramatic about it

    Most "scams" happen because players trust the wrong people with perms, or they don't trade with a cash register (since CRs are now craftable, this shouldn't be much of a problem anymore)

    People just need to be aware that other people can lie

    Instead of trying to convince "scammers" to stop "scamming," inform the players on the Do's and Dont's

    Well, I haven't heard of a cash register scam since November. So i doubt that's an issue. The issues are things like people bullying, doing payaway scams, bullies, fake casinos (which also is why you don't do it in reality, because its 100% chance), mostly because of people just getting cubits from people giving it to them and then the owner banning the person. Next, informing the players about the do's and don'ts could help, but scammers won't care unless someone like a mod or admin comes and finds them and catches them scamming, bullying, etc. Next, revolutions aren't what need to happen. What needs to happen, is for people to stop scamming/bullying. Revolutions would make the scammers feel like a god, considering they would never try to stop, because everyone is after them, BUT, they will be known by everyone. Which will encourage them to do more, so they will be known more.
    Dudo #77 said:

    Dudo #77 said:

    I especially remember that times old times C: people was happy some of them was donating to tip piggy also there were scammers too.. but not in that high number.. i only got scammed once in 2014... I really hope cc community go back to its old times.. they were just amazing..

    Tell me about it :(
    People were kind and amazing and didn't act like jerks to random people.
    Well first of all :) Shops wasn´t like before.. There were only tip piggys.. And people was nice and trusted each other so they had no problem.. I think i never found anyone in that times that had problem with paying into my piggy.. Also we didn´t know prices of anything for example i was selling harm wand for 400Cubits etc.. shops were made in main realms and was small ones.. That special feeling when i found my first cave art and glassed it so everyone can look what i´ve found and was like :OOOOOO... That times when players was giveawaying clothes to other people.. Not hats etc.. Just clothes like Pants and shirts.. And it made them happy... That times when noone thinked about business and cubits.. But everyone was hanging out with friends and was building something so they never get bored... I miss that times too much... But they cannot return anymore.. They will stay in my mind forrever..
    Ya. It destroys me. I miss the old people. People like my old friend Newsboysfan. She was such an amazing person. She taught me the ways of cubic castles, how to make a store, how to make amazing friends better than they already are. How to be a good qbee.
  • same dude the old times were better anyways... I was a noob and this RANDOM guy said heyo dude! Want help? And I said sure... -.- his user wast Natsu... dang all mah old friends left cus of the scams... If you guys wanna take action ;-; let me give you a tip if you see someone complaining about a scam tell em, if you don't want this to happen again report them or you could just say here dude let me help you rebuild, help them so that they dun loose hope in the game :3 anyways if you guys wanna help one day maybe one day (when im 90?) say I WILL DEFEAT EVILLL!!!
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